Ukraine - 500,000 now affected by mystery virus or Swine Flu

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blancanieve 2009-11-05 12:40:03

There is a blank page here! That's very instructive. As to what is apparently going to happen to reports of the spread of the phony flu pandemic and any account of the racketeers behind it.

Bloggers sentenced to 'hard labor' for reporting what they see?

Only in those "other countries" you say.

Ahh, I get it, we're all safe then!

keep moving, nothing to see here!

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re: instructive

fr 2009-11-05 14:55:32

blancanieve wrote:

There is a blank page here! That's very instructive.

its a video youtube
Ukraine - 500,000 affected, 96 Deaths by mystery virus or Swine Flu Russia Today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbkT-AhDNRE&feature=player_embedded

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fr 2009-11-05 15:05:41

if u r from East Europe especially Ukraine Poland Slovakia Belarus please tell us whats going on in Ukraine. We cant read Ukrainian newspapers. Thanks.

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fr 2009-11-05 15:11:30

remember
most people speak english
its the common language
we need to know whats going on
we cannot trust MSM - mainstream/corporate media

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fr 2009-11-05 15:14:04

anything you've heard may be useful
is it just h1n1 swine flu
or something more serious
this is what we need to know
MSM will not report if its serious
we have to rely on ordinary people.

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fr 2009-11-05 15:15:45

even if this turns out to be nothing
be ready next time to provide information
as soon as possible on the web

even if its ok
just tell us its all ok
but we need to know.
Thanks.

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re: re: instructive

blancanieve 2009-11-05 15:28:30

fr wrote:

[quote=blancanieve]There is a blank page here! That's very instructive.

its a video youtube

youtube is banned in my country! so what I
see is blank page...think about that for a moment...you don't need no Utube video to show you what's coming to yours...just use your imagination now.

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Wynter 2009-11-05 16:15:02

So.. if you do the math not even close to 1 percent of these cases are resulting in death.. it would be .00019%
I am not making light of the deaths, even one is horrible. However, this mysterious virus or whatever it is sounds like it spreads fast but it's not that harmful.
Another attempt to scare everyone into getting vaccinated.

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Wynteroops 2009-11-05 16:52:35

I mean .019% (forgot to convert) too early here

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Any Ukrainian bloggers in English ??

Jef Wallace 2009-11-05 17:43:28

Is there anyone on Twitter or any bloggers out of the Ukraine that could post in English so we can link out to them ? Thank you - we are hungry for updates on what is going on out there.

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Bingo! Expert Ukrainian Source!

AnoniCanuck 2009-11-05 19:38:24

Here's an article and the blog address for a medical expert in the Ukraine...

H5N1: News and Resources about Pandemic Influenza
November 05, 2009

Ukraine: Flu panic stoked by political malpractice

Thanks to the reader who sent the link to this op-ed item in the Kyiv Post: Flu panic stoked by political malpractice. The author, Yevhen Komarovsky, is described as a "celebrity doctor," and the item originally appeared on his blog.
(at http://www.komarovskiy.net/ )
It's a long piece, including a lot of common-sense medical advice, and his harshest diagnosis is of Ukrainian politicians. Excerpt:

In the first two days of panic and hysteria, the main advisers and teachers of the people were politicians, including deputies, ministers, former ministers, etc. As soon as a doctor appeared on the TV screen, it turned out that politicians are better at talking.

The apotheosis of panic was one presidential candidate’s declaration that Ukrainians are dying from lung plague. I will say it again: It wasn’t an old granny selling sunflower seeds who said it, but a presidential candidate!

Another presidential candidate was loudly complaining that there is no oxoline ointment [a preventative drug produced in Ukraine], that the criminal pharmaceutical companies failed to import it. Of course, none of those present could explain to the candidate that the effectiveness of this ointment is not proven, and it is imported by neither the United States, nor France, nor any other country.

There are no doctors among presidential candidates, and it must be too expensive to keep a medical adviser on staff. But there are doctors among politicians! One of them kept mixing up Teraflu, an anti-fever drug, and Tamiflu, an anti-flu drug.

When a lawmaker-doctor, who is a secretary of the health committee in the Verkhovna Rada, said that Tamiflu is a drug that only supports the immune system and that we “have decided at the National Security Council meeting that we’ll buy ozeltamivir instead,” I started to feel scared and embarrassed. If the country’s fate is decided by people who have no idea that Tamiflu and ozeltamivir are the same thing, what can we expect?

Who else are the decision-makers going to listen to? Just like somebody else writes speeches for the president and the prime minister, someone else will now decide on the list of drugs sold in drugstores! And tons of useless “medicine” will be shipped to our country, used nowhere else in the civilized world.

Here’s my advice to the decision-makers: Ask World Health Organization experts to make a list of compulsory drugs.

Komarovsky concludes by reassuring his readers that "there is no especially heavy viral disease in Ukraine. ... The mortality rate is lower than from regular flu."

Source: http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2009/11/ukraine-flu-panic-stoked-by -political-malpractice.html

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PROFESSORMESSER 2009-11-06 05:59:46

AnoniCanuck wrote:

Here’s my advice to the decision-makers: Ask World Health Organization experts to make a list of compulsory drugs. [/i]

that's rich...

hard to top

how bout

ask US lawmakers & judiciary to enact & enforce legislation to protect children from paedophiles?

request help from Israeli armed forces in determining source of unprovoked attacks on USS Liberty?

ask former UNOCAL lobbyist and opium broker H Karzai to form government protecting Afghans from terrorists?

take your pick...like the man says, you can't make this stuff up!

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