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The Polish Health Minister Eva Kopacz today told Parliament during a heated debate on the swine flu vaccination that she, as a qualified family doctor with more than 20 year of experience, will not authorise the use of untested vaccines on millions of people in Poland when there is inadequate information about the safety of the jabs.

She said the secret contract that the Polish government was supposed to sign with pharmaceutical companies had more than 20 clauses which are against the law.

Kopacz noted that governments in Western Europe had signed secret agreements with pharmaceutical companies, but suggested that the prosperity of the people of Poland was more important to her than the profits of Big Pharma.

She noted that there are three vaccines proposed for Poland with different types of adjuvants and was concerned that these vaccines were all being treated as if they were the same.

In addition, she observed that only 13 % of the people in Germany want to take the swine flu jab even though 5 times more people in Germany take the regular flu shot than in Poland, and asked why the Germans are so unwilling to take the jab.

She said there was secrecy surrounding the contents of the vaccines. There is no information about the amount of adjuvants in the vaccinesm, she added.

Furthermore, the family doctor and Health Minister said there is absolutely no information about the side effects of the swine flu jab. The pharmaceutical companies did not want to take responsibilty for the jab.

Also, she said that trials for the swine flu jab were being conducted on a relatively small number of healthy people and that these were not adequate for her to recommend the jab.

Moreover, Kopacz said that the regular flu was much more common and dangerous than the swine flu - and yet no pandemic had been declared over the seasonal flu.

Why is there such a panic about the swine flu virus? She asked.

Kopacz said that the Polish people can tell the difference between objective facts and the truth and lies.

She noted that all 193 people who allegedly had the swine flu in Poland had survived.

Finally, she called on the people of Poland to show their support for her as she comes under growing pressure from the pushers of the "swine flu" jab to give the people the dangerous and untested jab.

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Anonymous 2009-11-05 12:24:58 Sounds like she needs all the help she can get! This is a very brave woman, how can we help?! ReplyQuote 7 0

re: Krzysztof 2009-11-05 13:00:34 Anonymous wrote: Sounds like she needs all the help she can get! This is a very brave woman, how can we help?! @Anonymous, my suggestion is support for activism in Poland, where level of people unaware of population reduction/eugenics background behind all this is still especially high, they might need to get a good flyer by post or see a protest organized. More info on a possible donation: monitorpolski@yahoo.com contact person is Marek Podlecki - the grypa666.wordpress.com blog founder ReplyQuote 1 0

Hoo 2009-11-05 13:17:02 The problem is that she is fighting alone. Where is president Kaczyński? Where are other government bodies? Is she the only man left? ReplyQuote 1 0

re: fr 2009-11-05 14:17:37 Hoo wrote: Is she the only man left? probably.. ReplyQuote 1 0

Anonymous 2009-11-05 14:23:55 'organize a protest' Well the problem is i am not from Poland, but from western Europe. I think she really is the last woman standing.... :-S and saying this i am afraid she's going to have to be very careful. If there is a conspiracy going on, these people will stop at nothing. Please let the people of Poland stand up for their health, and their children's health; say NO to these untested, unsafe vaccinations!! ReplyQuote 0 0

Where's the proof? Bartje 2009-11-05 16:23:32 Where is the proof of this? I don't quite believe it (yet). ReplyQuote 1 0

Nie czekajmy z zaÅ‚ożonymi rÄ™kami MichaÅ‚ 2009-11-05 16:53:22 Witam, ProponujÄ… aby na blogu natychmiast ogÅ‚osić akcjÄ™ , które by wsparÅ‚a nasza PaniÄ… minister. Nie czekajmy z zaÅ‚ożonymi rÄ™kami Ta kobieta mocno siÄ™ naraziÅ‚a dla nas i tylko czekać jak jÄ… zacznÄ… niszczyć. JeÅ›li ona polegnie to bÄ™dzie zielone Å›wiatÅ‚o dla Big Pharma! Już caÅ‚kiem rozpanoszÄ… siÄ™ zuchwale. Pozdrawiam ReplyQuote 3 0

PROOF : SECRET CONTRACTS Anonymous 2009-11-05 17:16:25 This Mrs Minister Kopacz is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in what she says about SECRET CONTRACTS signed by probably ALL WESTERN (or WORLD) Countries : Here is the PROOF : http://www.lepoint2.com/sons/pdf/vaccin-H1N1%20medias.pdf (These contracts are in French, you may want to save them and print them, because this is going to make history anyhow) The PDFs are leaked extracts of the contracts that the FRENCH GOVERNMENT signed (and is still updating) with the different Flu Vaccin manufacturers. IT IS ALL THERE. => The confidentiality Clause states that EVERYTHING in the contracts is to be "not disclosed", thus "to be kept secret", except the items that are specifically stated in the "Green List". => So Everything is "Strictly Confidential", and in particular everything that is listed in the "RED LIST" : Which includes in particular : - any info about the ingredients of the vaccins - any info about the results of the clinical studies - any info about the "SAFETY OF THE VACCINS" : this is the so called "PHARMACOVIGILANCE", which is simply an incomprehensible word for "ADVERSE REACTIONS etc". SO : ALL of our governements have probably signed these kind of contracts (except the Polish Governement so I learn...). Congratulations to Mrs Kopacz! ==> !!! I suggest we need to spread this info about these contracts towards POLISH ALTERNATIVE PRESS BLOGGERS !!! - So if you happen to speak, or write a little Polish, or if you know of ALTERNATIVE PRESS BLOGS addresses, I think we should mail them, and point them towards this extremely important leaked documents!!! - This Minister Kopacz needs ALL THE HELP she can get right now! She might well turn out to be the Angel that is going ot come to save us, and expose this insane situation. ... (... During her speech concerning this vaccine issue, that was live broadcasted on TV, the broadcast was even CUT OFF for fifteen minutes DURING HER SPEECH..... this is NO COINCIDENCE my dear !!! .... ) SEE : http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=... LET'S HELP HER and OURSELVES. This situation must STOP, and we are going to STOP THIS MADNESS. PS : this info and link to the contracts was also to be found on Nov 2nd here at this website : http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article... ======Peace===== ReplyQuote 1 0

Ewa Kopacz kasia 2009-11-05 18:38:17 maybe someone can translate it to english: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxGzy6Bzw98 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yUwgS4mt_I ReplyQuote 0 0

roughneck 2009-11-05 21:43:17 Jestem totalnie zaskoczony. Myślałem, że ona tak jak całe PO skorumpowana ale szacun. ReplyQuote 0 0

BMJ 2009-11-05 22:21:47 Some ideas for the polish & ukraine: - Inform the local polish & ukrainian community in your country. - Write an email or letter to the polish & ukrainian embassy in you country. - Email polish & ukrainian ministers also. ReplyQuote 1 3

Nina 2009-11-06 12:08:34 "I have never been impressed with it`s(the flujab) efficacy", said Dr.Graeme Laver, the major Australian scientist involved in the invention of the flu vaccine, in addition to playing a leading scientific role in the discovery of anti-flu drugs. He went on record as saying the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and natural infection with the flu was safer.” The UK newspaper The Scotsman, November 2007 ReplyQuote 1 1

No accounting for stupidity Hadtheshot 2009-11-05 22:31:16 Just because she is a family GP gives her no good credibility to talk about the vaccine. Remember 50% of the population has an IQ below average. This is true of doctors too. Just because you are a G.P. dpes not mean you know what you are talking about. I hope the mortality in Poland does not reach its true potential because of some mouthy G.P. There is no conspiracy to the vaccine ithas been made for 50 years and the only real difference is the virus placed into the vaccine. Get smart people or get sick! ReplyQuote 2 3

Nina 2009-11-06 12:10:22 I meant to post this reply here. "I have never been impressed with it`s(the flujab) efficacy", said Dr.Graeme Laver, the major Australian scientist involved in the invention of the flu vaccine, in addition to playing a leading scientific role in the discovery of anti-flu drugs. He went on record as saying the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and natural infection with the flu was safer.” The UK newspaper The Scotsman, November 2007 ReplyQuote 0 0

Nina 2009-11-06 12:23:08 Not only is she well informed, and making a wise decision based on all the studies proving the utter uselessness of the normal flushot, she is also VERY couragious. That is something I think they have not made tests for, simply because courage, stimulates thinking for your self,and acting out of your own convictions. Very scary qualities for the vested interests. ReplyQuote 0 0

John 2009-11-05 23:23:31 Ewa Kopacz, you're a brave woman. The Polish people should thank God for giving them a health minister who actually cares about the well-being of her fellow citizens. ReplyQuote 3 0

jonsson 2009-11-06 00:13:47 I'm Polish and one thing I can say for sure is that minister Kopacz is violently attacked from mass media and some politics and I really hope this has nothing to do with pharmaceutical companies ;/ ReplyQuote 1 2

Dormammu 2009-11-06 03:52:36 quote.....by No accounting for stupidity - Hadtheshot 2009-11-05 22:31:16 Just because she is a family GP gives her no good credibility to talk about the vaccine.........Get smart people or get sick!" Are you: 1) Uninformed 2) WHO/CDC/FDA/Government employee 3) Pharmaceutical employee 4) A Head-As-Thick-As-A-Brick Dolt ReplyQuote 0 0

W. Hall 2009-11-06 06:21:47 Do any of the Polish vaccine activists know ATTAC-Polski?? They should try to contact them. ATTAC is part of the "gatekeeper Left" and does not like "conspiracy theories". Jane tried to work with them in Austria but was not able to. Still, in Poland they may be less cut off from society. They may listen, and they are part of a European-wide network. It is worth trying to contact them in my opinion. There may be more point to doing it in Poland where you have a minister spearheading resistance than, for example, in Greece, where I am, where the Socialist government is dragging its feet with the vaccines but not really resisting. ReplyQuote 0 0

W. Hall 2009-11-06 06:58:14 58% of the doctors and 90% of the medical staff at the Red Cross in Athens declared that they do not intend to be vaccinated, at a time when specialists are appealing to citizens to be vaccinated. The president of the National Committee for the Influenza Pandemic, Eleni Giamarellou, in order to get across the message that there is no reason for anxiety about the possible side-effects of the vaccine against the new H1N1 flu, declared that she will be among the first to be vaccinated. The members of the National Committee nevertheless note that the vaccination is not compulsory. The research carried out by the Red Cross indicates that not only the general public but also the country's medical personnel have NOT been persuaded by official statements in relation to the dangers from side-effects of the new vaccine. Similar studies carried out on the general population indicate that six out of ten people are thinking of staying away from the programme of mass vaccination. The President of the National Committee for the Influenza Pandemic also emphasised the need to have immediately available the 150 beds in the Intensive Care Units, which are remaining unutilized. In the event of the scenario becoming a reality that 20% of the population will fall ill from the H1N1 virus, an additional 170 to 470 beds will be needed at Intensive Care Units. In the context of the attempt to find a solution there has been mention even of the possibility of requisitioning Intensive Care beds in private clinics. 41 cases of side effects Since the beginning of October 1.4 million Swedes have been vaccinated, of whom 41 have come down with undesirable side-effects, including allergies. But none of the cases that have been detected have been serious and non-reversible, said Mrs Giamarellou immediately following yesterday's meeting of the Committee. The president of the National Committee mentioned the necessity for pregnant women in the second or third month of pregnancy to be vaccinated, as they face greater risk than the rest of the population of suffering serious symptoms. She nevertheless pointed out that people allergic to eggs should not be vaccinated, something that does not apply for the regulat flu vaccine. This is because Greece has been provided with vaccines that have been cultivated in eggs, not in cells. Source: TA NEA newspaper ReplyQuote 1 0

ANOTHER LITERAL MINDED DENIER Anonymous 2009-11-06 08:27:13 Did you really think that this vaccine would take down healthy people immediately? It took not months but several years to do this to the US military. That is how they got away with creating Gulf War Syndrome, using the same stuff you just endorsed having shot into your arm. Ideology is impervious to facts. ReplyQuote 0 0

re above remark Anonymous 2009-11-06 08:28:34 Meant for "HADTHESHOT" ReplyQuote 1 0

not only Minister Kopacz jf08 2009-11-06 08:42:50 According to polls from last weeks vast majoroity of Polish people are against vaccination. Also from "street discussions" devestating majority of opinions state that swine flu is a hoax. (I live in a big city as for polish standarts). I do not know what is the case with countryside that is usually more media dependent. Main streem media and some populist political parties are the only ones that see the panic and conduct a furious attack on our health minister. At the same time main streem media are full of advertisements of "health" products of "flu stuff" programs - ie. detect your flu, see the doctor, what to do not to have swine full. It makes you throw-up, you simply can't watch it. Only smaller independent stations report the case differently. Big plus for minister Kopacz and actually smart Polish people. ReplyQuote 0 1

keep calm John 2009-11-06 11:58:02 Hello everyone, One shouldn't panic but try to remain calm and discuss about facts, not guessing or assuming. It is indeed strange that a pandemic status has been given to a flu that isn't even as harmful as the seasonal flu. However, it could be a good thing that the WHO coordinates world-wide actions, the bird flu has given a learning curve for that. Doesn't it make sense that in a global community a central organization should collect information and give advice? Anyway, each country and state still has something to say and a choice in what to do. In Belgium the government has about 12 million vaccines on stock. In a few days only persons with a higher risk (e.g. respiratory problems, pregnant women in their 2nd & 3rd trimester) are advised to take the vaccination shot. The heath representative from the Belgium government stated that everyone who's healthy doesn't need to be vaccinated. Belgium simply has taken it's precautions, nothing more, nothing less. As for safety of the vaccines, they are as safe as they should be (read; minimal side effects). Don't forget that every medicine has a side effect, and of course if you extrapolate to 6 billion people one tends to ask questions. A poor communication is often the reason for people to become suspicious, which is a good thing of course. And about the Baxters, GSK's etc. ... hey, capitalism has it's disadvantages. That's why I love Europe, at least there's still some balance to be found in the "socio-economic" model, a difficult and delicate balance I agree. But check the USA lately, the ugly face of capitalism is showing off more and more and they know that if they continue along this road they'll be in big trouble. with regards ReplyQuote 0 0

I see darkness Xandrius 2009-11-06 13:01:46 What this minister is doing is very brave, but I fear that she will not live for very long. As other have written, the people that want this to go as planned dont stop for nothing. Either she will be assasinated or she will be fired from her job, but really I think the first one will apply and they will probably say that she killed herself because of the pressure from other politicians and the media. But hopefully she will get some help from a local group before this happens. ReplyQuote 1 0

USA capitalist 2009-11-07 10:44:36 @keep calm. Your information on the USA's problems is completely incorrect. Capitalism has been completely subverted and the free markets were never allowed to function properly. In a free market, no one is 'too big to fail' and the shenanigans here proves that Capitalism is not going on here. Read Ayn Rand on the subject. ReplyQuote 1 0

Massive Miscarriages from the regular Flu and H1N1 uno_who 2009-11-07 11:15:02 (1) Jo says: I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1. October 26, 2009 at 11:07 am (2) Regrets says: I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL! October 29, 2009 at 8:33 am (3) :( says: i work in a hospital like setting and was told ‘the benefits outweigh the risks” 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide October 31, 2009 at 1:29 pm (4) sue says: I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage. October 31, 2009 at 8:25 pm (5) Linda Hill says: My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried. November 1, 2009 at 9:58 pm (6) Stephanie says: I received the H1N1 over a week ago. I am now 5 weeks. I am doing well so far. November 2, 2009 at 10:52 pm (7) SoSorry says: I was so ready to get the H1N1 vaccine last week and they were only giving them to pregnant women. I was 6 weeks along and got it and the next day I started cramping and miscarried. I already had two healthy pregnancies and never miscarried or had any problems. My doctors think I am crazy to think it was the H1N1 but if no one looks into this than other women will not know. I am so sorry that I got it. November 3, 2009 at 4:30 pm (8) Connie says: I also received the H1N1 vaccination on October 22nd, 2009 and went into labor on October 25th, at 16 weeks pregnant and we just heard the heartbeat and everything was fine with my pregnancy on October 16th, 2009, then on October 28th my water broke then on October 29th, I delivered a stillborn baby boy, and no one can tell me why…Everyone wants to say it did not come from the shot but I believe it did. My baby was growing at the correct pace and everyone wants to brush off the vaccination. I say if you have the vaccination and suffer a miscarriage if they are able to perform an autopsy have it done. November 3, 2009 at 4:34 pm (9) Connie says: I also agree something needs to be done and looked more into with this vaccination because most women are being advised it’s just something that happens, but I also had two healthy children normal pregnancies and when I received this vaccination with my third pregnancy, my baby is gone. Contact me at connie.adams@rocketmail.com November 4, 2009 at 10:12 pm (10) sioux falls, south dakota says: I received the H1N1 vaccine on October 16th and started experiencing cramping on the 22nd. I was nearly 17 weeks pregnant and gave birth to a stillborn baby boy on the 23rd. Like many of the other women here, the first thing I suspected was the H1N1 vaccine. I immediately asked a nurse at the hospital if that would have anything to do with it. Without hesitation, she told me “absolutely not.” I had reservations about getting the vaccine, but followed the advice of my long trusted family doctor. In a follow up appointment with my doctor 3 days after I lost my baby, I asked him if the vaccine would have had any adverse effects on my baby. He also said that it was not possible. I don’t believe that my doctor was necessarily lying to me, he was simply following the accepted practices and opinions of his field. I do, however, believe that as a nation, we are being lied to. This vaccine is NOT safe during pregnancy. There has not been enough testing done to determine this and there are far too many “coincidences” for this to be anything but a result of a vaccine that was hastily pushed into production and distribution in an effort to stop widespread panic. I have read so many stories in defense of the vaccine that will talk about how common miscarriages are, but I would challenge you to ask ANY health care professional how common second trimester miscarriages are. My baby was doing perfect developmentally and I had felt him move earlier that day. My heart goes out to all of you out there who have had to go through the same heartache and loss that I have had in the last couple of weeks. There is no reason that any woman or family should have to go through this. Get the word out to all of the pregnant women that you know. I know that if I had heard that women had been losing their babies shortly after they received the vaccine, I would have followed my gut and not gotten it myself. Maybe then Wyatt would have had a chance at life. November 5, 2009 at 11:51 am (11) sue field says: If you read the novatis or baxter pkg insert available on the web you will find that 1. there is not sufficient testing on pregnant women so they dont know how safe it is….its not recommended for children under 2 is not a fetus a child under 2? there is no conclusion on safety with breastfeeding….. Md’s just want to scare the hell out of you for the 1% that can get very sick..If folks would just wash hands frequently, stay away from sick contacts as much as possible and take supplements and live a healthy way…you likely can avoid the flu altogether… SOOOOO Sorry for your losses….my ReplyQuote 1 0

uno_who 2009-11-07 11:18:15 http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearf... ReplyQuote 1 0

Ingredients of the H1N1 Vaccine in Canada (Arepanr uno_who 2009-11-07 11:21:15 Arepanrixâ„¢ H1N1 (AS03-adjuvanted H1N1 pandemic influenza vaccine) is a two-component vaccine consisting of an H1N1 antigen (as a suspension), and an AS03 adjuvant (as an oil-in-water emulsion). The virus is inactivated followed by formaldehyde treatment and disrupted with sodium deoxycholate. Preservative content: 5µg (micrograms) Thimerosal USP per 0.5mL dose or 2.5 micrograms organic mercury (Hg) per 0.5mL dose Adjuvant: The AS03 adjuvant system is composed of DL-α-tocopherol, squalene and polysorbate 80 in a 3mL vial: DL-α-tocopherol: 11.86 milligrams/0.5mL dose Squalene: 10.69 milligrams/0.5mL dose, Polysorbate 80: 4.86 milligrams/0.5mL dose http://preventdisease.com/news/09/102609_Alert_Canadians_Arepanrix... ReplyQuote 0 0

ryszard malinski 2009-11-07 14:12:53 Brawo! Ogladalem pani wywiad z pania Olejnik . Jestem dla pani pelen podziwu . Pani pozycja jest sluszna.Baxter Laboratories to firma do robienia kasy i nic wiecej, natomiast o pani Olejnik raczej zamilcze bo szkoda slow. Pozdrawiam i zycze powodzenia ReplyQuote 0 0

gabi 2009-11-08 12:51:06 Maybe you all should have a look at this:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1338572241371195960# you can also find it on you tube in english. very interestin is the last and third part. watch it till the end. The one world country and the chip arementioned there too ReplyQuote 0 0

gabi 2009-11-08 12:52:33 go to you tube and watch Zeitgeist part 2 and 3 english version ReplyQuote 1 0

Anonymous 2009-11-09 05:41:02 There is much information on the website listed here from the Baxter Pharmaceutical incident in Feb. 2009 to present. You must review the Baxter Pharmaceutical incident, which makes it quite clear that this virus is man/laboratory made and intentionally put out on the human population. The H1N1 has 5 different strains of virus that just don't join w/out happening in a lab (1918 Spanish Influenza; Eurasian Flu; American Flu; Avian or Bird Flu, etc.). The vaccine is full of toxic ingredients (Squalene, adjuvant, thimerisol) and some people are being gravely effected from the vaccine but Big Pharma is trying to keep these facts out of the main stream media. Well now the story becomes clearer, thanks to The Polish Health Minister Eva Kopaczas, as to why so many countries, certainly the U.S., is pushing to have any and everyone get this poisonous vaccine; they've strong armed or perhaps paid off the people at the top who are changing laws, etc. to not only force these vaccines on us but give those who are injured NO recourse! This is a grave CRIME by Big Pharma and ALL those aiding in orchestrating this toxic vaccine campaign. ReplyQuote 0 0

Anonymous 2009-11-09 05:42:18 Website mentioned above is www.HealthyPlanetHealthyMe.com ReplyQuote 0 0

Radio host, producer S. B. 2009-11-09 05:57:11 Please contact Sherry Beall at Sherry@SherryBeall.com with your story of miscarriage, etc. after having the H1N1 Vaccine. I have been covering this Vaccine topic almost exclusively on my radio show since finding out about the Baxter Pharmaceutical incident as mentioned above. In the subject line you can write H1N1 Vaccine / Miscarriage or whatever you wish. I would like some of your stories on my show - KPFK FM in So. CA. I am so sorry to all who have unjustly suffered. My thoughts and prayers go out to you. Please contact me via email. Thank you. ReplyQuote 0 0

mikistjep 2009-11-13 20:52:52 Greetings from Croatia. Finally someone with some sense and brave enough to stand against these bastards, I hope more officials will follow her example ReplyQuote 0 0

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