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Get The Facts First-Hand!
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-05 19:42:36

We all need the facts, and - amid the swirling clouds of official disinformation - they are in even shorter supply than the 'miracle vaccine'!

Here's an article and the blog address for a medical expert in the Ukraine...


H5N1: News and Resources about Pandemic Influenza
November 05, 2009

Ukraine: Flu panic stoked by political malpractice

Thanks to the reader who sent the link to this op-ed item in the Kyiv Post: Flu panic stoked by political malpractice. The author, Yevhen Komarovsky, is described as a "celebrity doctor," and the item originally appeared on his blog.
(at http://www.komarovskiy.net/ )
It's a long piece, including a lot of common-sense medical advice, and his harshest diagnosis is of Ukrainian politicians. Excerpt:

In the first two days of panic and hysteria, the main advisers and teachers of the people were politicians, including deputies, ministers, former ministers, etc. As soon as a doctor appeared on the TV screen, it turned out that politicians are better at talking.

The apotheosis of panic was one presidential candidate’s declaration that Ukrainians are dying from lung plague. I will say it again: It wasn’t an old granny selling sunflower seeds who said it, but a presidential candidate!

Another presidential candidate was loudly complaining that there is no oxoline ointment [a preventative drug produced in Ukraine], that the criminal pharmaceutical companies failed to import it. Of course, none of those present could explain to the candidate that the effectiveness of this ointment is not proven, and it is imported by neither the United States, nor France, nor any other country.

There are no doctors among presidential candidates, and it must be too expensive to keep a medical adviser on staff. But there are doctors among politicians! One of them kept mixing up Teraflu, an anti-fever drug, and Tamiflu, an anti-flu drug.

When a lawmaker-doctor, who is a secretary of the health committee in the Verkhovna Rada, said that Tamiflu is a drug that only supports the immune system and that we “have decided at the National Security Council meeting that we’ll buy ozeltamivir instead,” I started to feel scared and embarrassed. If the country’s fate is decided by people who have no idea that Tamiflu and ozeltamivir are the same thing, what can we expect?

Who else are the decision-makers going to listen to? Just like somebody else writes speeches for the president and the prime minister, someone else will now decide on the list of drugs sold in drugstores! And tons of useless “medicine” will be shipped to our country, used nowhere else in the civilized world.

Here’s my advice to the decision-makers: Ask World Health Organization experts to make a list of compulsory drugs.


Komarovsky concludes by reassuring his readers that "there is no especially heavy viral disease in Ukraine. ... The mortality rate is lower than from regular flu."

Source: http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2009/11/ukraine-flu-panic-stoked-by -political-malpractice.html
Here's The Original Op-Ed
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-05 19:50:45

Well, it turns out that his blog is only in Ukrainian, so hers the original article from it as an op-ed in the Kyiv Post, instead...

Flu panic stoked by political malpractice

Kyiz Post, Ukraine,
Today at 21:12 | Yevhen Komarovsky

Celebrity doctor Yevhen Komarovsky talks about prevention and treatment of viral infection, and gives a thorough analysis of how political incompetence and ensuing panic harms the nation.

I recently talked to a nurse working in a regular polyclinic. She had a call from her boss, who said: “Tomorrow you have to bring three face masks to work with you.” Her justified objection that they’re difficult to come by was met by the boss’ curt reply: “It’s your problem. The night is long. There’s enough time to sew them.”

This information was the last drop for me, and I have decided to talk. It seems I have been talking non-stop since all of last Friday and Saturday [Oct. 30-31]. My phone book has 850 entries, and it seems that every single person in it called me. I realized that if my friends and patients (who are all well-prepared to fight a simple viral infection) are panicking, the general panic must be catastrophic.

I talked to a TV channel manager from Kharkiv on Oct. 30. It turned out it’s almost impossible to address the residents of our city because the whole air time is taken up by politicians. On the same night Savik Shuster had a show about flu. This show was one of the greatest shocks of my life: I have never felt so embarrassed for my country.

What is actually happening

Most likely, Ukraine has an epidemic of a respiratory viral infection.

Dear mothers and fathers! People! Please remember that your actions should not depend on the name of the virus. Be it seasonal, swine, elephant, pandemic or no flu at all – it makes no difference. What’s important is that it’s a virus, and it’s airborne and it affects your respiratory organs. And your actions should be based on this understanding.


Prevention

If you or your child meet the virus, and you have no antibodies in your blood, you will get sick. You can develop antibodies in two ways: either you have been sick and gotten better, or through a vaccine.

You can only get vaccinated from seasonal flu. There is no vaccine (in Ukraine) for swine flu. Nevertheless, it’s best to have antibodies to the three viruses that make the seasonal vaccine than no antibodies at all.

1. If you have a chance to get vaccinated, do it on two conditions: that you are perfectly healthy and that you won’t have to wait in long lines in infection-ridden hospitals.

2. There are no proven prevention drugs. No amount of onions, garlic, vodka, no amount of pills swallowed by you or your child can protect you from a respiratory virus, or flu in particular. Everything you’re lining up for in drugstores has not been proven effective. It only satisfies the need of Ukrainians “to do something.”

3. The source of the virus is another human. The fewer of them around, the less chance to get sick. So, quarantines are fine! Banning mass gatherings – fine! Walk rather than take public transport, go to the supermarket less – it’s very wise!

4. The face mask is useful, but not a panacea. Whoever gets sick should wear it around those who are healthy: it will not stop the virus completely, but it will stop the droplets of saliva that are full of virus.

5. The sick person’s hands are as bad a source of virus as his mouth or nose. The patient touches his face and hands, the virus is transferred to their hands, and grabs everything around him. You touch it after him, and get sick. So, avoid touching your face, wash your hands a lot, all the time, carry disinfecting wet napkins, don’t be lazy!

Remember to sneeze or cough into your elbow if you have no napkin, and teach your kids to do the same.

Dear bosses! Please ban handshakes in offices.

Use credit cards – paper money is a great source of viruses.

6. Air the room! Virus particles are active in dry, warm and stale air, but are almost instantly destroyed in cold, wet and moving air. From this point of view, a meeting in the center of Kyiv of 200, 000 people is less dangerous than a gathering of 1, 000 people in a club in Uzhgorod.

Walk about as much as you like. It’s almost impossible to get a virus while you’re walking outside. It’s best to not show off wearing a face mask. You’re better off breathing fresh air and putting the mask on before entering a shop, office or public transport.

For best effect, your room temperature should be around 20 degrees, with 50-70 percent humidity. Air the room thoroughly and frequently. Clean the floor with wet cloths, switch on air humidifiers. Don’t switch on additional heating; better to wear an extra layer.

7. Watch your mucous membranes which are responsible for your local immunity. If they get too dry, viruses easily overcome the initial barrier, and your chances to get sick grow dramatically. Dry air is the main enemy of the dry nose, as well as some medications (including antihistamine drugs).

Spray your nasal passages with a salt solution of one teaspoon of salt per one liter of boiled water. Use any sprayer you can find leftover from other drugs. The more people around you, the more often you should do it. You can buy ready-made saline solutions in the drugstore. This is an especially important procedure if you’re leaving a dry room and are going into a crowd.



Treatment

The only medication that is capable of destroying the flu virus is ozeltamivir, its commercial name is Tamiflu. In theory, there is another drug (zanamivir), but its use is limited and there’s little of it in Ukraine.

Tamiflu should not be chomped by anyone who’s just had a sneeze. It’s expensive, and has many side effects, and it makes no sense at all. Tamiflu is used when the illness is very bad or when the patient belongs to a risk group -- elderly, asthma sufferers, diabetics. But if someone needs to take Tamiflu, they also need a doctor’s supervision, and – most likely – hospitalization. That’s why all new shipments of Tamiflu to our country should be forwarded to hospitals, not drugstores.

Attention! Most people reading this should have nothing to do with anti-viral treatment. Flu is a light disease for most people. Treating a viral infection and flu, in particular, is not about swallowing pills. It’s about creating conditions for the body to fight the virus easily.

The rules of treatment

1. Dress warm, but leave the room cold and humid. Make sure the temperature is around 20 degrees, and humidity around 50-70 percent. Wash floors, air the room.

2. Never make a sick person eat! If they feel hungry and ask for it – give them light, carbohydrate-rich food, soups.

3. Drink plenty, all the time! Make sure your drinks are roughly the same temperature as your body. Add an apple to the tea, boil raisins and eat dried apricots. If your child doesn’t like something, let them drink whatever they want. Ready-made rehydration solutions are sold in drugstores. They’re ideal.

4. Spray your nose with saline solutions, often.

5. All the “distracting” procedures are fine: mustard patches, feet steaming, etc. This is more psychotherapy.

6. If you want to combat fever, only use paracetamol or ibuprophen. No aspirin!

7. If your upper respiratory organs are affected (nose, throat or larynx), do not use any expectorants as they will only make the cough worse. If lower organs are affected (bronchitis or pneumonia) cannot be treated without a doctor! Please no self-treatment!

8. Antihistamines have nothing to do with treating respiratory viral infections.

9. Viral infections are not treated with antibiotics. Antibiotics do not reduce, they increase the risk of complications.

10. None of the interferons [artificial protein-based drugs] for local use have been proven effective.

11. Homeopathy is not to do with treatment with herbs. It’s safe. It’s psychotherapy (you feel like you’re doing something.)

When you need a doctor

Always! But th...
(2) 'Here's The Original Op-Ed'
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-05 19:53:08

Flu panic stoked by political malpractice (2) (Continued)

When you need a doctor

Always! But this is unrealistic. Here are the situations when a doctor’s presence is obligatory:

No improvement on the fourth day;

Fever on the seventh day;

The patient is feeling really bad, but the symptoms are mild;

When you have one or more of the following symptoms: really pale skin, thirst, breathlessness, intensive pain, purulent discharge;

The cough gets worse, when a deep breath causes a coughing fit;

When you use paracetamol or ibuprophen, but the fever either doesn’t get better, or gets better only marginally, or gets better for a very short time.

You need a doctor urgently if there are any of the following symptoms:

Loss of consciousness;

Convulsions;

Any signs of shortage of breath (difficulty breathing, breathlessness, feeling there isn’t enough air);

Intensive pain anywhere;

Moderate pain in the throat with no runny nose;

Moderate headache in combination with vomiting;

A swollen neck;

Rash that does not disappear when pressed;

Temperature over 39 degrees which does not get better 30 minutes after anti-fever drugs are taken;

Any fever combined with shivering and pale skin.

Everything written here is information that any doctor should know and promote among people. But in reality, the opposite happens.


Mistake one: Incompetence

In the first two days of panic and hysteria, the main advisers and teachers of the people were politicians, including deputies, ministers, former ministers, etc. As soon as a doctor appeared on the TV screen, it turned out that politicians are better at talking.

The apotheosis of panic was one presidential candidate’s declaration that Ukrainians are dying from lung plague. I will say it again: It wasn’t an old granny selling sunflower seeds who said it, but a presidential candidate!

Another presidential candidate was loudly complaining that there is no oxoline ointment [a preventative drug produced in Ukraine], that the criminal pharmaceutical companies failed to import it. Of course, none of those present could explain to the candidate that the effectiveness of this ointment is not proven, and it is imported by neither the United States, nor France, nor any other country.

There are no doctors among presidential candidates, and it must be too expensive to keep a medical adviser on staff. But there are doctors among politicians!

One of them kept mixing up Teraflu, an anti-fever drug, and Tamiflu, an anti-flu drug. When a lawmaker-doctor, who is a secretary of the health committee in the Verkhovna Rada, said that Tamiflu is a drug that only supports the immune system and that we “have decided at the National Security Council meeting that we’ll buy ozeltamivir instead,” I started to feel scared and embarrassed. If the country’s fate is decided by people who have no idea that Tamiflu and ozeltamivir are the same thing, what can we expect?

Who else are the decision-makers going to listen to?

Just like somebody else writes speeches for the president and the prime minister, someone else will now decide on the list of drugs sold in drugstores! And tons of useless “medicine” will be shipped to our country, used nowhere else in the civilized world. Here’s my advice to the decision-makers: Ask World Health Organization experts to make a list of compulsory drugs.


Mistake two: See a doctor immediately

The most persistent advice that everyone has been given is to see a doctor as soon as you have any symptoms. The chief sanitary doctor of the country basically said this: We have no idea what caused pneumonia, but you have to turn for help in time, and doctors know what to do.

Such declarations create an impression that doctors know some secret medicines that could help if you contract a virus. But I’m a doctor who has been dealing with respiratory viral infection treatment for nearly 30 years. Imagine a patient coming to me the first day they get sick, and saying “Help me!” What would I tell them? The same as above: air the room, get plenty of fluids, there is no need for drugs.

If everyone turns to doctors en masse, here is what will happen:

Infection-ridden lines in polyclinics;

A huge number of home calls, and the exhausted doctor will either send everyone to the hospital or prescribe useless drugs, plus carry the infection from one patient to another;

Mass prescription of antibiotics and other medications to the great joy of pharmaceutical companies and medical charlatans;

Lines in drugstores because this is the only place you go to after seeing a doctor;

Unjustified hospitalization and hospital pneumonias;

Overwhelmed by the mass of light cases, the doctors will miss serious ones.

Here’s another bit of advice to power brokers: Do not call for people to see a doctor every time they sneeze. Stop your election campaign and let the doctors tell people elementary things about what needs to be done, and when a doctor is truly needed.


Mistake three: Unprotected doctors

Why have the doctors turned out to be unprotected? Knowing about the swine flu pandemic, and that it would hit us in autumn, why did the doctors who are 100 percent exposed to the virus failed to be vaccinated in September?

Ukraine has no vaccine, even for doctors. That’s why now, in the middle of an epidemic, the doctors will be the first ones to have to stay in bed and receive patients with runny noses. Why couldn’t we order the vaccine for doctors at least?

Because after what has been done to the concept of vaccination, after the barbarian, unworthy and uncivilized anti-vaccination campaign, nobody could even imagine that some new vaccine could be imported with a sped-up registration procedure, with no repeat clinical trials. By the way, people have rushed to get vaccinated en masse in the last few days: it turned out everyone suddenly starts to like vaccination as soon as there is a threat of disease.


Conclusions

If you correlate the number of those who got sick (and multiply by two because only a half of people come to the doctor), and the number of those who have died, it becomes a confirmed fact that there is no especially heavy viral disease in Ukraine. According to the data available by the morning of Nov. 2, officially 200, 000 people got sick, 60 died. The mortality rate is lower than from regular flu.

Pneumonia is the main reason for death of many people in many countries in all times. It can develop as a complication of many other diseases and traumas. If all of these deaths are reported by the media massively, nothing good will come out of it.

It’s very unlucky that so many factors have come together: crisis, election, autumn and flu. But we have to remember that a viral respiratory infection is one of the most common and light diseases. It requires calm and concrete, elementary actions, that any person can afford.

I understand perfectly well what stress a mother has and what she is capable of when every day she hears about a deadly disease going around, and then she suddenly discovers that her child has a runny nose. The only thing I don’t understand is why they’re doing it to our people.

Yevhen Komarovsky a Kharkiv-based doctor, is the author of books on children’s and parents’ health. He is also owner of the private hospital Clinicom. This op-ed was originally published on his blog at http://www.komarovskiy.net.

Source: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/52015/
Outrageous!
Diana 2009-11-05 20:20:39

It seems to me these people are smirking while they talk. Do they actually believe their own lies? Maybe some of them do!

The impertinence of what they are saying, my favourites "all I try to do is combat nonsense with truth". Hah! Wasn't it the other way around? And: "in a place where we ALLOW freedom of speech..."
who gives them the right to bestow our civil rights on us? We have inviolable human rights, given by God, not by any constitution, and certainly not by the Council on Foreign Relations and other bodies. Let them inject themselves with their own vaccine then if they think it's so good, or maybe they have already done it, as their brains are obviously subhuman!
was it a joke?
Norville 2009-11-05 21:06:21

maybe I´m the only one who thinks about this aspect?
The title of this video is that vaccine is withhold on purpose to create panic and this video is supposed to present the evidence.
But really all I can see is at this blond woman make´s a joke about this. I must admin I´m not a native english speaker, but to me it sounds like a joke. She is not serious. And it rather sounds speculative to me then vital evidence. I mean not that I wouldn`t believe that the CFR wouln`t withheld the vaccine. These are crimial people, for sure. But I woulnd`t present this joke as evidence.

No joke!
Karin 2009-11-05 21:55:34

I would have thought it to be a joke too, if it wasn't for a coupple of days later there was a sudden vaccine shortage in Sweden as well. And the same lousy argument about the mercury and the tuna sandwich!
Here's How
rawjvh 2009-11-05 21:29:08

To answer the question of one man in the audience who asked how to suppress crazy people from resisting the vaccine claiming that tuna fish sandwich has more mercury than the vaccine so therefore the vaccine must be safe (classic disinformationist imo and a whole other issue also), I propose the following.

Make the vaccine voluntary! Hello!!!

I think that would work! Make it voluntary and I think we could expect a drastic reduction in opposing viewpoints on the internet.
Anonymous 2009-11-06 00:03:35

I suggest the arresting of banksters to calm down crazy truhseekers
UKRAINE: 'Pandemic Politics'
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-06 01:57:25

Pandemic Politics

Kyiv Post, Ukraine,
Yesterday at 22:11 | Peter Byrne, Nataliya Bugayova and Kateryna Grushenko

The Halloween health scare continues to haunt the nation well into November as people are dying form flu and other respiratory diseases, as politicians play the blame game.

If the nation’s top officials had done a better job preparing for this year’s flu epidemic, Andriy Stakhiv might still be alive today. Instead, the 31-year old Lviv native – described as “young, healthy and strong” – died of flu-related complications, only two weeks after complaining of a temperature, aches and pains.

Friends and family wonder if medical negligence also contributed to his death. “He called a doctor, who came the next day, prescribed some pills and left,” his friend, Oleksandr Parshkov, said. Four days later, suffering from a fever and shortness of breath, Stakhiv was taken to a hospital emergency room in Lviv.

“Prepare for the worst. His lungs are almost gone. We do not know how to treat him,” doctors at the hospital told Stakhiv’s family, according to Parshkov. He died on Oct. 30, the same day that the government took dramatic steps to stop the spread of the flu. That day, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko ordered the nation’s schools and universities closed and banned large public gatherings for at least three weeks.

Initially, the government’s justification for taking such drastic steps was hotly criticized. But the debate has subsided as the death toll keeps rising. Still, the nation is seen as having missed prevention opportunities since at least this spring, when the swine flu struck Mexico. Many, including President Victor Yushchenko, believe Tymoshenko’s government could have curbed the epidemic sooner by vaccinating and educating people. Meanwhile, speculation remains about whether the fast-moving virus will mutate to a more deadly form.

The victims

As of Nov. 5, the Health Ministry reported that 95 people had died in Ukraine from flu and respiratory infections in the last month. The World Health Organization says most could be victims of the A/H1N1 vrus, also known as swine flu, or Californian flu. The WHO is also working on the assumption that most of the more than 633, 000 respiratory illnesses recently registered in Ukraine are probably caused by the virus as well.

The Health Ministry said almost 30, 000 people have been hospitalized, nearly 5, 000 more than a day earlier.

While the total number of flu-related and acute respiratory illnesses is on par with previous years, the number of cases registered daily has since mid-October exceeded the epidemic threshold, leading flu specialists in Ukraine and abroad to sound the alarm bells.

Several thousand people die from flu-related illnesses each year in Ukraine. For the first nine months of 2009, for instance, 3, 822 people died from flu and its complications. But the spike in deaths in the last month has raised fears that the number of victims during this flu season could grow much higher.

What is it?

Early warning signs of the epidemic came between Oct. 12-18 from health workers in Ternopil Oblast, who reported a dramatic rise in flu-like illnesses and deaths after more than 45, 000 people fell ill with “an unknown respiratory illness.”

That’s what Deputy Health Minister Oleksandr Bilovol, the country’s chief sanitary doctor in charge of the government’s flu prevention program, called it. During a press conference in Kyiv on Oct. 23, Bilovol played down fears of a flu epidemic. He said all the necessary measures, including school closings, were being taken to contain the outbreak and restrict it to Ternopil Oblast.

“We expect the start of the flu season in mid or late November, depending on the weather conditions,” Bilovol said. “And we are prepared to handle any flu epidemic that might arise.”

Slow-footed response

Public officials have known for many months that it was a matter of when, not if, the swine flu would arrive in Ukraine. Nevertheless, they provided little advance notice and took few precautionary measures. The Cabinet of Ministers in April 2009 provided the Health Ministry with only $6 million (Hr 50 million) to prepare for a swine flu epidemic. But not even that modest amount was well-spent, it appears.

“The money was allocated for . . . drugs, laboratories, artificial respirators, test systems . . . everything necessary to get the patient out of the critical condition,” Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko told lawmakers on Nov. 3. A day earlier, the General Prosecutor’s Office opened a criminal investigation into how the funds were allegedly misallocated.

Time and money— half a year and Hr 50 million— were not used wisely to prepare the nation for the approaching epidemics.

“There are no test systems or antibiotics. Hospitals are not equipped with artificial respirators. All the drugs and equipment are either in transit or storage,” Tetyana Bakhteeva, chairwoman of parliament’s health committee, said on Nov. 3.

Victor Ovrachuk, deputy head of the Ternopil Oblast administration health directorate, agreed.

“We have not received laboratories, artificial respirators or antibiotics. We have received a two-day supply of the antiviral medication Tamiflu. That’s about it,” Ovrachuk told the Kyiv Post on Nov. 4.

It was the same story in Luhansk. “We paid for test systems from our regular budget. We did not get the equipment we needed the most,” Anatoly Dokashenko, Luhansk’s chief sanitary doctor said.

He criticized the centralized state purchases, insisting regional government is more aware of their needs. “We know locally what exactly we lack and what exactly we need,” Dokashenko added

Piet Spijkers of Dutch Humanitarian Aid described the situation at Lviv Oblast hospitals his organization supports as “appalling.” He said on Nov. 4 that there is a lack of basic medical supplies, barely any flu tests, vaccines or antiviral drugs, such as Tamiflu.

“If children get ill, we can’t even establish whether they have the swine flu virus. We just have to go by the symptoms,” Spijkers told Radio Netherlands.

Panic

Media-driven flu fears, meanwhile, hit panic level in Kyiv, as people flocked to drugstores to buy Tamiflu and Relenza – the only antiviral medications known to be effective against the swine flu virus. People also tried to stock up on anti-bacterial gels, thermometers, and vitamins. By Halloween, most of the capital’s apothecaries had already sold all their stock of paracetamol (acetaminophen) ibuprofen, and flu-related medications. Vendors at outdoor markets also cashed in on the hysteria, hiking prices for garlic and fresh fruits.

Surgical masks have remained the most desired flu-related item, but they too have been in short supply. After searching for them in vain at a dozen drugstores in Kyiv’s Shevchenkivskiy district, the Kyiv Post eventually located several at a sex shop.

WHO to rescue?

Ukraine’s Health Ministry on Oct. 30 confirmed Ukraine’s first swine flu-related death, and the government ordered Ukraine’s schools closed and banned public gatherings – including election campaign rallies – for at least three weeks.

Yushchenko the next day focused world attention on the country’s flu problem in a letter calling on the European Union, the World Health Organization, NATO and other nations to come to Ukraine’s assistance. The dramatic appeal came amid media reports that helicopters were dropping chemical agents to prevent the spread of the plague.

A team of nine flu experts from the WHO arrived in Kyiv three days later on a two-week fact-finding mission to evaluate the clinical and epidemiological situation in the country and help the government cope.

“This is a serious matter,” said Glenn Thomas, WHO media officer. Earlier this year, the WHO provided Ukraine’s health ministry with comprehensive information on prevention and management of the swine flu virus, also donating 61, 000 packs of Tamiflu, 4, 000 flu test-kits and diagnostic equipment.

Th...
(2) UKRAINE: Pandemic Politics
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-06 01:59:39

Pandemic Politics (2) (Continued)

“This is a serious matter,” said Glenn Thomas, WHO media officer. Earlier this year, the WHO provided Ukraine’s health ministry with comprehensive information on prevention and management of the swine flu virus, also donating 61, 000 packs of Tamiflu, 4, 000 flu test-kits and diagnostic equipment.

The Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine’s parliament, on Nov. 3 enacted legislation allocating an additional $131 million (Hr 1 billion) for flu response measures, in addition to another $12 million for funding other unspecified flu prevention measures.

The armed forces and Emergency Ministry, meanwhile, have been instructed to prepare portable military hospitals, and the government has promised to provide all of the country’s regions with enough gauze to sew their own face masks.

Though the country has imposed several social-distancing measures, such as a three-week school closure set to expire on Nov. 23, no general quarantine is in effect. Officially, 10 western regions are under quarantine, but it is loosely enforced.

Americans in Ukraine looking to get better prepared than Ukrainian nationals are out of luck. A message posted on the U.S. Embassy’s website says officials are aware of the swine flu outbreak and are monitoring the situation, but “because of legal restrictions and lack of resources, we are not able to provide private citizens with pandemic supplies, medication, medical treatment, or medical advice.”

Symptoms, prevention and treatment

Deputy Health Minister Bilovol on Nov. 4 predicted almost a quarter of Ukraine’s 46 million inhabitants could come down with the flu or other acute respiratory viral infections over the next year.

“Taking into account the susceptibility to the pandemic virus, about 12 million people could be infected,” Bilovol said during a conference call with the heads of the country’s regional administrations. The estimate, he said, is based on “a tried-and-true” epidemiological forecast taking into account WHO recommendations and general information about how the swine flu pandemic developed in other countries.

The symptoms of the H1N1 flu are similar to any other seasonal flu and involve pain in muscles and joints, sore throat, elevated body temperature, cough and runny nose, and, in some cases, vomiting and diarrhea.

Swine flu spreads from person to person through droplets that are released when a person coughs or sneezes. Someone sick with A/H1N1 is usually contagious for 7 days, starting from the onset of the illness until the flu-like symptoms disappear.

“The virus spreads just like any other seasonal flu. The only difference is that people don’t have any immunity to it. Therefore, when exposed, they usually get sick,” Myles Druckman, vice president of International SOS, told the Kyiv Post on Nov. 3.

Druckman said educational measures are “critical” in tackling the epidemic because they make people less anxious.

“One of the best ways to protect oneself is frequent hand-washing, coughing in the elbow and cleaning the workplace,” Druckman said. “You don’t need any fancy cleaners, just soap and water will do the job.”

According to the guidelines released by Ukraine’s Health Ministry, anyone sick with flu should be immediately put into bed and isolated from family members and public places, including transportation or educational institutions. They must call a doctor, take an antipyretic such as paracetamol to control high fever and drink plenty of fluids. Patient who experience trouble breathing, very high fever, nosebleed, seizures, cyanosis, diarrhea and vomiting should seek emergency medical help.

Panic subsides

The highest waves of panic came during the last week of October. On Oct. 30, people lined up at pharmacies, but had difficulties getting medicine and masks. Kyrylo Katyshev tried to get home to Rivne Oblast that day, but learned from a police offer that “no one is allowed to leave the oblast” because of the flu. WHO guidelines, however, say that travel restrictions are generally ineffective at stopping the flu’s spread.

From Lviv, near the Ukrainian center of the epidemic, Kyiv Post columnist George Woloshyn wrote on Nov. 2: “People are going about their business and taking precautions but, otherwise, accepting this as simply another difficulty that will go away in time. The only critical comments heard are complaints that the authorities had not provided for an adequate supply of masks. They contrasted the government’s handling with that of Mexico, where medical assistants were handing out masks in public squares and transit areas. Such items as masks should have been stockpiled for this or any other emergency, rather than rushed from neighboring countries.”

Ihor Pokanevych, head of the WHO office in Kyiv, told Deutsche Welle on Nov. 5 that health authorities are watching to see if the seasonal strains of the flu and the swine flu will mutate into more virulent form of virus. Ukraine has become a test case of sorts.

“The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how the virus can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in Eastern Europe,” Pokanevych added.

Source: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/52029/
(2) KIEV POST: 'Pandemic Politics'
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-06 02:08:56

Pandemic Politics (2) (Continued)

“This is a serious matter,” said Glenn Thomas, WHO media officer. Earlier this year, the WHO provided Ukraine’s health ministry with comprehensive information on prevention and management of the swine flu virus, also donating 61, 000 packs of Tamiflu, 4, 000 flu test-kits and diagnostic equipment.

The Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine’s parliament, on Nov. 3 enacted legislation allocating an additional $131 million (Hr 1 billion) for flu response measures, in addition to another $12 million for funding other unspecified flu prevention measures.

The armed forces and Emergency Ministry, meanwhile, have been instructed to prepare portable military hospitals, and the government has promised to provide all of the country’s regions with enough gauze to sew their own face masks.

Though the country has imposed several social-distancing measures, such as a three-week school closure set to expire on Nov. 23, no general quarantine is in effect. Officially, 10 western regions are under quarantine, but it is loosely enforced.

Americans in Ukraine looking to get better prepared than Ukrainian nationals are out of luck. A message posted on the U.S. Embassy’s website says officials are aware of the swine flu outbreak and are monitoring the situation, but “because of legal restrictions and lack of resources, we are not able to provide private citizens with pandemic supplies, medication, medical treatment, or medical advice.”

Symptoms, prevention and treatment

Deputy Health Minister Bilovol on Nov. 4 predicted almost a quarter of Ukraine’s 46 million inhabitants could come down with the flu or other acute respiratory viral infections over the next year.

“Taking into account the susceptibility to the pandemic virus, about 12 million people could be infected,” Bilovol said during a conference call with the heads of the country’s regional administrations. The estimate, he said, is based on “a tried-and-true” epidemiological forecast taking into account WHO recommendations and general information about how the swine flu pandemic developed in other countries.

The symptoms of the H1N1 flu are similar to any other seasonal flu and involve pain in muscles and joints, sore throat, elevated body temperature, cough and runny nose, and, in some cases, vomiting and diarrhea.

Swine flu spreads from person to person through droplets that are released when a person coughs or sneezes. Someone sick with A/H1N1 is usually contagious for 7 days, starting from the onset of the illness until the flu-like symptoms disappear.

“The virus spreads just like any other seasonal flu. The only difference is that people don’t have any immunity to it. Therefore, when exposed, they usually get sick,” Myles Druckman, vice president of International SOS, told the Kyiv Post on Nov. 3.

Druckman said educational measures are “critical” in tackling the epidemic because they make people less anxious.

“One of the best ways to protect oneself is frequent hand-washing, coughing in the elbow and cleaning the workplace,” Druckman said. “You don’t need any fancy cleaners, just soap and water will do the job.”

According to the guidelines released by Ukraine’s Health Ministry, anyone sick with flu should be immediately put into bed and isolated from family members and public places, including transportation or educational institutions. They must call a doctor, take an antipyretic such as paracetamol to control high fever and drink plenty of fluids. Patient who experience trouble breathing, very high fever, nosebleed, seizures, cyanosis, diarrhea and vomiting should seek emergency medical help.

Panic subsides

The highest waves of panic came during the last week of October. On Oct. 30, people lined up at pharmacies, but had difficulties getting medicine and masks. Kyrylo Katyshev tried to get home to Rivne Oblast that day, but learned from a police offer that “no one is allowed to leave the oblast” because of the flu. WHO guidelines, however, say that travel restrictions are generally ineffective at stopping the flu’s spread.

From Lviv, near the Ukrainian center of the epidemic, Kyiv Post columnist George Woloshyn wrote on Nov. 2: “People are going about their business and taking precautions but, otherwise, accepting this as simply another difficulty that will go away in time. The only critical comments heard are complaints that the authorities had not provided for an adequate supply of masks. They contrasted the government’s handling with that of Mexico, where medical assistants were handing out masks in public squares and transit areas. Such items as masks should have been stockpiled for this or any other emergency, rather than rushed from neighboring countries.”

Ihor Pokanevych, head of the WHO office in Kyiv, told Deutsche Welle on Nov. 5 that health authorities are watching to see if the seasonal strains of the flu and the swine flu will mutate into more virulent form of virus. Ukraine has become a test case of sorts.

“The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how the virus can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in Eastern Europe,” Pokanevych added.

Source: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/52029/
'Vaccine Ingredients' - Dr. Mercola
AnoniCanuck 2009-11-06 02:19:30

A Review of Four Approved Swine Flu Vaccines’ Ingredients

Posted by: Dr. Mercola
November 05 2009 | 53,873 views

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By Dr. Mercola

I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I'm not anti-vaccines, but rather pro vaccine-safety. That means, I strongly believe that we should only inject substances into our bodies, and especially into the bodies of infants and the unborn, that have been rigorously studied and proven safe both short-term and long-term.

As it stands now, we've spent decades injecting materials into the bodies of young and old alike, without sufficient amounts of safety testing of the ingredients, and our society is showing the signs of this neglect.

Neurological dysfunction and disorders such as autism and Alzheimer's have been growing steadily and show no signs of slowing down.

Mercury, in the form of thimerosal, is included in the majority of all flu vaccines as a preservative in multi-dose vials. Thimerosal-free single-dose vials are typically reserved for infants under the age of three, and pregnant women only.

I recently published a long list of studies confirming the health dangers of thimerosal -- proof that those who claim "thimerosal has never been shown to cause any damage" are not telling you the truth. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary, and if you missed that article, I recommend you review it now.

But thimerosal is not the only questionable and potentially dangerous ingredient in flu vaccines.

Adjuvants Explained

In order for a vaccine to be considered effective, your immune response to the vaccine should be to produce antibodies to the live or dead viruses in the vaccine (the antigen). An adjuvant is a substance added to a vaccine to improve your immune response to the antigen. The word comes from the Latin adjuvare, which means "to help."

By adding adjuvants the vaccine can contain less viral antigens, which reduces production costs.

Unfortunately, many of these adjuvants are highly toxic.

There are several types of adjuvants. Some of the most commonly used ones include:

* Aluminium hydroxide
* Aluminium phosphate
* Calcium phosphate

Other adjuvants include oil-based emulsions such as squalene, Squalene has not been licensed by the FDA for use in vaccines distributed in the U.S. yet, although squalene is an adjuvant used in vaccines distributed in Europe and other countries.

GlaxoSmithKline's proprietary formula ASO3™ and Novartis' MF59™ are two examples of squalene adjuvants.

As damaging as the neurotoxin mercury is, it's important to realize that aluminum is also a neurotoxin and aluminum-based adjuvants are estimated to be even MORE toxic than mercury.

GREAT NEWS -- No Squalene Allowed in US Swine Flu Vaccines!

Fortunately, Americans can draw a sigh of relief as it pertains to squalene -- one of the most controversial of the adjuvants -- at least for now.

Although vaccine manufacturers were pushing to be allowed to use squalene in many of the swine flu vaccines, and the US Department of Health and Human Services purchased spent more than $400 million of tax payers' money to stockpile the oil-based adjuvant, their efforts have been unsuccessful so far.

In order to legally allow unlicensed squalene adjuvants to be included in licensed H1N1 vaccines, the US government would have had to issue an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

There have been small H1N1clinical trials in which experimental squalene adjuvants were included and tested, which have been reported by various media sources, fueling the questions about its use. But that is different from an FDA licensed vaccine that is made available for general public use.

To date, no EUA has been issued, so the swine flu vaccines licensed for use in the US do NOT contain squalene. However, it is still unclear whether the National Emergency declaration issued by President Obama on October 23, 2009, will cover adding novel adjuvants like squalene, or whether a separate EUA must be issued to allow the use of unlicensed adjuvants.

The best way to confirm the existence of vaccine components is to consult the vaccine product manufacturer inserts. Below, you will find links to the inserts for the four H1N1 vaccines licensed for use in the US.

You may also want to review the transcript of the July 23, 2009 meeting of the FDA Vaccines & Related Biological Products Advisory Committee for more information on the discussion about whether the FDA should issue an EUA and allow unlicensed adjuvants in US vaccines.

Thankfully, so far, the FDA has declined to approve squalene adjuvants for US H1N1 vaccines, but that does not mean that the drug companies will not continue to press for approval in the future.

Beware: European Vaccines May Contain Squalene

Unfortunately, vaccine manufacturers have persuaded countries in Europe and elsewhere to add squalene to seasonal influenza and H1N1 vaccines, so if you live outside the US, you will need to do some further research to determine which vaccines may contain squalene.

A recent article in the English version of the German news source The Local, for example, warns that the German Defense Ministry has ordered a special stock of H1N1 vaccines for their troops that will contain neither mercury nor adjuvants, whereas the general public will be given vaccines containing both.

When checking for squalene, beware that the ingredient called MF59™ is an oil-in-water emulsion of squalene, Tween™80 (polyoxyethylene sorbitan monooleate), and sorbitan trioleate.

MF59 is approved for human use in Europe, but not in the U.S.

Four Swine Flu Vaccines have Gained US FDA Approval

Below I will review the list of ingredients for the four swine flu vaccines that gained U.S. FDA approval on September 15. (As of this writing, GlaxoSmithKline is the only contracted vaccine manufacturer that has not yet gotten their swine flu vaccine approved.)

Please note that there may be additional anti-virals available that are being used to treat swine flu, and/or swine flu vaccines on the market in other countries, but this article only covers the following four vaccines that have received FDA approval for use in the US:

* MedImmune (intranasal spray)
* Novartis
* Sanofi-Pasteur
* CSL

These companies, along with GlaxoSmithKline, have all been awarded contracts by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) for development and production of more than 195 million doses of swine flu vaccine.

For more information, warnings and side effects of each ingredient, please follow the hyperlinks provided.

MedImmune

MedImmune, which is a subsidiary of London-based AstraZeneca, offers an intranasal spray that contains live attenuated virus. The package insert for MedImmune's intranasal vaccine can be found here.

Please note that the adverse reaction information for MedImmune's vaccine is based on studies conducted with the seasonal flu version known as FluMist.

Please review the insert for numerous warnings, contraindications, and adverse reactions.

Of special note are the warnings that it should not be administrated to children and adolescents (2-17 years of age) receiving aspirin therapy or aspirin-containing therapy, because of association of Reye's syndrome.

In addition, it's important to realize that safety has not been established in individuals with underlying medical conditions predisposing them to influenza complications.

MedImmune's vaccine also should not be administered to any individual with asthma, or children under the age of 5 with recurring wheezing because of the potential for increased risk of wheezing post vaccination.

Lastly, please note that some viruses contained in this and other intranasal vaccines CAN spread from the vaccinated person to others. Hence, if a person has a comprom...
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A Review of Four Approved Swine Flu Vaccines’ Ingredients (2) (Continued)

Lastly, please note that some viruses contained in this and other intranasal vaccines CAN spread from the vaccinated person to others. Hence, if a person has a compromised immune system, he or she could be placed at risk of infection from people who have been vaccinated. The ease of transmission appears to vary from strain to strain.

Dosing Instructions for MedImmune Intranasal Spray vaccine:

* Children 0-2 years: Not approved
* Children 2-9 years: 2 doses, 0.2 ml each, approximately one month apart
* Children and adults between the ages of 10-49 years: 1 dose, 0.2 ml
* Adults 50-65: Not approved, as FluMist was found to have no demonstrable effectiveness in this age group
* Seniors 65 and over: Not approved
* Pregnant women: Not recommended

Ingredients include:

* Live, attenuated virus
* Monosodium glutamate. MSG is a known neurotoxin and excitotoxin.
* Egg proteins
* Sucrose (table sugar)
* Dibasic potassium phosphate
* Monobasic potassium phosphate
* Gentamicin sulfate (antibiotic)

Intranasal vaccines do not contain thimerosal (mercury).

Questionable Efficacy…

According to the insert, FluMist has demonstrated a mere 44.5 percent reduction in influenza rate when looking at all strains, compared to active controls (other flu vaccines).

Novartis

The package insert for Novartis' Influenza A(H1N1) 2009 Monovalent vaccine can be found here.

Again, the adverse reaction information for this swine flu vaccine is based on studies conducted with the seasonal flu vaccine Fluvirin, not the A(H1N1) vaccine itself.

It is worth noting that the safety data for Fluvarin (upon which the safety data for the swine flu vaccine is based), was collected from 29 clinical studies over the past 27 years that included no more than 2,768 adults.

In these studies, the subjects were observed for 30 minutes after vaccination, and were instructed to complete a diary card for the three days following immunization, to collect local and systemic reactions.

So, keep in mind that the "safety data" for this vaccine is based on studying human subjects for FOUR DAYS. Not weeks, months, or years, to see if problems occur down the line.

Please review the insert for numerous warnings, contraindications, and adverse reactions.

Dosing Instructions (intra-muscular injection):

* Children 0-4: Not recommended
* Children 4-9: Two 0.5 ml doses one month apart
* Children 9-17: One 0.5 ml dose
* Adults, 18 and over: One 0.5 ml dose

Ingredients include:

* Inactivated A/California/7/2009(H1N1)v-like virus derived from cell-cultures using dog kidneys. Physorg.com http://www.physorg.com/news175767804.html recently reported that a Swiss authority overseeing medicine and therapeutical products had found bacterial contamination in test batches of the vaccine -- a charge that Novartis has denied.
* Single-dose vials contain 1 mcg of mercury per 0.5 ml dose
* Multi-dose vials contain 25 mcg of mercury per 0.5 ml dose
* Egg proteins
* Polymyxin (antibiotic)
* Neomycin (antibiotic found in many topical medications). Neomycin is in the FDA pregnancy category D. This means that it is known to be harmful to fetuses.
* Beta-propiolactone (a disinfectant). According to the EPA: "No information is available on the chronic (long-term), reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects of beta-propiolactone in humans. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified beta-propiolactone as a Group 2B, possible human carcinogen."
* Nonylphenol ethoxylate (NPE) (a toxic cleaning agent)

Sanofi-Pasteur

The package insert for Sanofi-Pasteur's Influenza A(H1N1) 2009 Monovalent vaccine can be found here.

The adverse reaction information for Sanofi-Pasteur's vaccine is based on studies conducted with the seasonal flu version known as Fluzone. The safety data for infants under the age of 3 is based on adverse reactions of 19 children, reported within a mere three days of vaccination.

Please review the insert for numerous warnings, contraindications, and adverse reactions.

Dosing Instructions (intra-muscular injection):

* Children 0-5 months: Not approved
* Children 6-35 months: two 0.25 ml doses, approximately one month apart
* Children 36 months to 9 years: two 0.5 ml doses, approximately one month apart
* Children 10 years and older: one 0.5 ml dose
* Adults: one 0.5 ml dose

Ingredients include:

* Inactivated A/California/7/2009(H1N1)v-like virus propagated in embryonated chicken eggs
* Prefilled pediatric syringes and single-dose vials are mercury-free
* Multi-dose vials contain 25 mcg of mercury per 0.5 ml dose
* Formaldehyde (up to 100 mcg). Formaldehyde is classifed as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and as a known human carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer.
* Triton-X 100 (Polyethylene glycol P-isooctylphenyl ether) is a toxic detergent
* Sodium phosphate
* Sodium chloride (table salt)
* Gelatin
* Sucrose (table sugar)

CSL Biotherapies, Inc.

The package insert for CSL's Influenza A(H1N1) 2009 Monovalent vaccine can be found here.

The adverse reaction information for CSL's vaccine is based on studies conducted with the seasonal flu version known as Afluria.

Here the safety data is based on adverse reactions reported within 21 days of vaccination. It's also worth noting that the safety assessment studies were done using mercury-containing placebos, which may significantly skew the data as the control group would most likely experience similar side effects of the thimerosal as those receiving the actual vaccine.

Additionally, tucked away on page 10 it states that:

"No controlled clinical studies demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination with Afluria have been performed."

Please review the insert for numerous warnings, contraindications, and adverse reactions.

Dosing Instructions (intra-muscular injection):

* Adults only, 18 years and older: one 0.5 ml dose

Ingredients include:

* Inactivated A/California/7/2009(H1N1)v-like virus propagated in embryonated chicken eggs
* Single-dose vials are mercury-free
* Multi-dose vials contain 24.5 mcg of mercury per 0.5 ml dose
* Polymyxin (antibiotic)
* Neomycin (antibiotic found in many topical medications). Neomycin is in the FDA pregnancy category D. This means that it is known to be harmful to fetuses.
* Sodium chloride (table salt)
* Monobasic sodium phosphate
* Dibasic sodium phosphate
* Monobasic potassium phosphate
* Potassium chloride
* Calcium chloride
* Sodium taurodeoxycholate (detergent)
* Egg proteins (ovalbumin)
* Beta-propiolactone (a disinfectant). According to the EPA: "No information is available on the chronic (long-term), reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects of beta-propiolactone in humans. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has classified beta-propiolactone as a Group 2B, possible human carcinogen."

How Effective is the H1N1 Vaccine, Really?

"Specific levels of HI antibody titers post-vaccination with inactivated influenza virus vaccine have not been correlated with protection from influenza virus. In some human studies, antibody titers of 1:40 or greater have been associated with protection from influenza illness in up to 50% of subjects."

You will find that paragraph in all the vaccine inserts.

What that paragraph...
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A Review of Four Approved Swine Flu Vaccines’ Ingredients (3) (Continued)

What that paragraph says, is that the vaccine only works in half, or less, of those individuals who attain the specified level of seroconversion after vaccination. The FDA defines seroconversion as achieving an antibody titer of 1:40.

This means that if a vaccine was 100 percent effective at achieving this level of seroconversion, it would protect up to 50 percent of the recipients of the vaccine.

But none of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at achieving seroconversion.

CSL's vaccine insert, for example, (see pages 11-12), states that their H1N1 vaccine provides seroconversion for:

* 48.7 percent of people aged 18-65
* 34 percent for seniors, 65 and older

That means that, at best, their vaccine works in one out of every four people! (49 percent of 50 percent).

Which, of course, means that the vaccine does NOT work in three out of every four people…
swine flu posters

Is it REALLY worth it?

Final Thoughts

Hopefully, this compilation of data will help you weigh the risks and benefits, to make a more educated decision for yourself and your family.

You can also print out these fact-filled posters that we created. Feel free to share them any way you like around your community, at local stores, offices, and schools.

Lastly, please remember to bookmark the special section of my site devoted to all the latest H1N1 Swine Flu Alerts. It's an excellent go-to source to stay updated on all the new swine flu developments.

Source: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/05/Swine-Fl u-Vaccine-Ingredients.aspx

Dormammu 2009-11-06 04:07:52

The dried-up prune face English dude kept using "crazy" to describe dissenters, and then goes on to say it is the ultra-right and the ultra-left that is causing this "hysteria". So, 80% of the planet opposes the Flying Pig Vaccine, I guess then 40% of the entire earth is ultra-right, 40% is ultra-left. What would the other 20% be then? Ultra-Undecided?
beltway bandit 2009-11-06 09:08:06

Let's just call it what it is, forced vaccination is an act of war against the population. I know we have reach a level of gentility that does not know or understand what it means to be in a combat trench getting shot at but, the shot in the arm is the exact same reality, it is a deadly threat. In the flu case, prison and fines have already being suggested and legally set by the enemy. In the case of war, you do not let the enemy capture you and then ask them not to torture and kill you. Defense require counterintelligence and practical application. Obviously voting means nothing and actually taking out targets is a waste of time, the best thing people can do to kill the threat is, monetary divestment in the form of boycotts and strikes. If some one is crazy enough to try to stick you with anything against your will, you must take a stand or others will fall. At this point, it is shocking to see zero interest consuming the future of labor and laborers still working to sustain their own loss, as the same idiots line up to be the killer new world order mutating virus beast, carrying the RFID tag linked to the DNA of a flying pig. If it were not for being bound by Christ, who but a fools stands fast in a trench under this pathetic display of fire without firing a return?
Anonymous 2009-11-06 15:35:45

The giving of the vaccines to Wall Street before the American children is also an attempt to create panic and desperation for the vaccine. It was likely done on purpose just like the vaccine shortage. So not only are they creating an intentional shortage to create demand, they are intentionally giving it to Wall Street first and allowing the story to "leak" to the public to infuriate the public and enrage them with jealousy to create even more demand. They're really going all out! Did they get the "elite" version?
John 2009-11-06 15:43:11

Now it's confirmed, the ultra right and the ultra left are teaming up in an unholy alliance...blah, blah, blah. And to think there are people who actually listen to this drivel and believe it. Oh well, that's what happens when you let professional liars and eugenicists in white suits do your thinking for you.
capt rick 2009-11-06 15:59:21

stop with health care worker bull shit.We protect our patients from massacre every day from your fucked health care system
we know why we are refusing the flu jab, listen to us you morons.Take it you selves.
John 2009-11-06 15:59:31

Here in Canada there is a big uproar because some hockey players got the shot before everyone else. Just to make us all envious I suppose and want to get what we can't supposedly get because there is such a shortage (cough). And if you're not in one of those privileged groups you'll just have to wait, using psychology to create a need for something that wasn't needed in the first place, except for the fact that they created it in a lab and now stand to make billions by convincing people to take the shot. Insisting they need it, even while holding it back, creating an artificial demand. Create the problem, then offer up the solution which was what you wanted in the first place (pucky). For everyone to either voluntarily take the shot because they think they need it and suddenly can't get it, or else they may try to mandate you to take the shot against your will. Either way, a mighty hefty propaganda campaign is underway for your hearts and minds. And most people don't have an inner voice telling them what to do in a situation like this, so they depend on an external one. Like the media, spewing out lies 24/7. Like this show featuring this bunch of lifeless mannequins who don't even realize what they are saying, or if they do, don't care as long as they are getting a paycheque.
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