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Swedish woman got the "swine flu" in spite of vaccination against it.

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Swedish woman got the "swine flu" in spite of vaccination against it.


In an article today in Expressen a Swedish woman tells her story about how she got the "swine flu". That would have been ordinary but in her case she was vaccinated against it five days earlier. In the article it is implied that she got the flu from someone else and that her vaccination did not "take effect" for another several days.

In reality it seems to be a typical case of someone who actually got the flu from the shot. This is a well known and well documented phenomena with many types of vaccinations.

She had no symptoms for several days but the cough and in the night "it felt like I had a thousand warriors in my body". She went to the emergency reception at the local hospital and was kept there for three days. They gave her anti viral drug Tamiflu.

Now she is very critical to how authorities in Sweden have handled the information about the poisonous Pandemrix "swine flu" shot.

"- After having received the shot, I lived in a state of false security", "Nowhere did I get the information that it would take ten days or two to three weeks for the vaccine to become effective"



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Nurse 2009-11-07 14:54:40

As a nurse, I do know that all vaccinations take several days (depends on the vaccine) to take effect. It makes sense as it takes your body time to react to the antigens in the vaccine and produce antibodies against it. This is also why we develop illness which is then resolved in several days (like a common cold). If you body has not seen the pathogen before it does not have the anitbodies built up and needs time to do so, and when that happens we recover from the illness. I am not saying that it is not possible that this woman's illness was caused by the vaccination, but it is also possible that she was exposed before, or after receiving the vaccine and before the antibodies has built up entirely in her system.. my point is that this is not evidence against the vaccine.
Norwegian 2009-11-07 18:07:04

If you know so much about vaccines, then tell me: Why is it nescessary with these spesial eccuipments for this vaccine? Here in Norway vaccination was delayed because the syringes and needles had'nt arrived in time... All hospitals do have these things stored, but they obviusly can't use something ordinary..?!?!
http://www.health.state.nm.us/h1n1/documents/2009_H1N1_Influenza_Vacci ne_Ancillary_Kit_Description_102609_v1.7.pdf
Anonymous 2009-11-07 15:16:47

Ignoring for a moment all the toxic side effects that this vaccine can deliver, lets just consider how effective it might be at protecting you from the disease, in the best case scenario.

Here is the analysis, taken from articles.mercola.com...

How Effective is the H1N1 Vaccine, Really?

"Specific levels of HI antibody titers post-vaccination with inactivated influenza virus vaccine have not been correlated with protection from influenza virus. In some human studies, antibody titers of 1:40 or greater have been associated with protection from influenza illness in up to 50% of subjects."

You will find that paragraph in all the vaccine inserts.

What that paragraph says, is that the vaccine only works in half, or less, of those individuals who attain the specified level of seroconversion after vaccination. The FDA defines seroconversion as achieving an antibody titer of 1:40.

This means that if a vaccine was 100 percent effective at achieving this level of seroconversion, it would protect up to 50 percent of the recipients of the vaccine.

But none of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at achieving seroconversion.

CSL's vaccine insert, for example, (see pages 11-12), states that their H1N1 vaccine provides seroconversion for:

•48.7 percent of people aged 18-65
•34 percent for seniors, 65 and older
That means that, at best, their vaccine works in one out of every four people! (49 percent of 50 percent).

Which, of course, means that the vaccine does NOT work in three out of every four people…


Is it REALLY worth it?

re:it is anecdotal evidence. If everyone who gets
Elly 2009-11-07 15:45:32

Nurse wrote:
As a nurse, I do know that all vaccinations take several days (depends on the vaccine) to take effect. It makes sense as it takes your body time to react to the antigens in the vaccine and produce antibodies against it. This is also why we develop illness which is then resolved in several days (like a common cold). If you body has not seen the pathogen before it does not have the anitbodies built up and needs time to do so, and when that happens we recover from the illness. I am not saying that it is not possible that this woman's illness was caused by the vaccination, but it is also possible that she was exposed before, or after receiving the vaccine and before the antibodies has built up entirely in her system.. my point is that this is not evidence against the vaccine.


Dr. Ott's interview with Alexander S. Jones:
Speculations Surrounding Ukraine Plague:
http://preventdisease.com/news/09/110409_ukraine_plague_flu_strain_mor e_lethal_H1N1.shtml
Nurse 2009-11-08 01:59:00

the link doesn't work.
To JANE:
jacek 2009-11-07 15:50:05

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhZesZe33cw
Nina 2009-11-07 20:00:53

Thank you Jacek!
This is so uplifting, a health minister who is interested and ready to fight for the health of the people.

Thanks for translating, and making available!
Anonymous 2009-11-07 18:27:43

Oh and thats real proof of its effectiveness Isnt it ?

To get the swine flu after recieving the VACCINATION Dont that tell you something??
and then you get a nurse reflecticting absolute crap 7 days YER RIGHT How come some have dropped dead within hours or 2 days ?

Don 2009-11-07 19:34:59

Good grief. It clearly states that it takes 2 weeks or more for the vaccine to become effective. What a silly none story.
Robert 2009-11-07 19:43:36

Hmmmmm. Another web site cashing in on the swine flu.
Rich 2009-11-07 20:50:20

I had the vaccine last week as I am going on holiday in December. I asked the nurse if it worked straight away and she checked the sheet and it says no it takes time to build up. So that explains - just a misunderstanding when the story was written. oh and I haven't got the flu from it lol. It's nothing to worry about really - it doesn't even hurt (just a needle) that much.
Nurse 2009-11-08 01:57:00

That's odd, in Canada that is not the case. They use standard equipment - 25 guage needes, 1 inch in legnth, 3 ml syringes... I am not from Norway, maybe you should ask a Norwegian nurse. Maybe it is a different vaccine - there are several manufacturers.

Norwegian 2009-11-08 06:54:45

Odd - yes. The link you saw was from CDC, so that's info for americans. But we have the same info in norwegian and swedish too... Three different needles - is it normal to use one for mixing, one for extracting and one for injektion..? We get our vaccine from GSK.
rikisuave 2009-11-08 13:30:15

Fuck them! Last night i heared that the doctor was hospitalized with swine flu despite getting vaccinated by GSK pandermix swine flu jab.
US Children getting 'sick' after vaccination
Skip Vaccines 2009-11-08 18:21:16

A 'friend' on FaceBook is reporting her child "sick" with fever and vomiting 10 days after H1N1 vaccination. She "hopes the vaccine will lessen the severity of symptoms"!! Another commented that her child also became "sick" with 24 hours of vomiting after recent H1N1 vaccination. This is in the US.
Jeannie 2009-11-08 22:37:24

Well in Quebec, there is a woman with light asthma who died two days after receiving the vaccine, but the media showed it as if she just died of H1N1. Actually, she didn't have it before getting the vaccine, and she died in TWO DAYS. How is this possible, even with a normal H1N1 case?? Most possible answer: the vaccine itself did it...
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